Hot Damn!!

[BP95GSX]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-Pag ... dZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-Pagani-Zonda-Monza-Race-Car_W0QQitemZ160030651665QQihZ006QQcategoryZ80766Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

I wonder if I can get a loan for this thing.....

[Greg97GSX]

Love the car, HATE the blue accent paint....it just HAS to go!!

[T_K]

what's the problem, just buy it and repaint it :lol:

[Utah Joe]

that wing looks like it came off of a riced out hyundai

[gtluke]

i'm not one to give a shit about looks, but that car is fucking hidious.

[Utah Joe]

Not only that, but for 1.3mil I would rather have an Enzo.

[DrSmile]

For 1.3 mil I'd rather have a house...

[Utah Joe]

For 1.3 mil I'd rather have a house...

or about 1 million crunch wrap supremes.

[CollegeDropout]

where'd they get that picture of my garage

[Nate Crisman]

I wonder if I can get a loan for this thing.....

Im sure my dad would say NO too. :lol:

Seriously, Million $ cars baffle me. They really coudn't design a wing that didn't look straight out of F&F3? And the blue paint, well. 1.3 mil and you still gotta paint it so all the Ferrari/Lambo drivers don't laught at you?

[Utah Joe]

John, safe yourself 400 large.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INCOMPARABLY-STRIKING-THE-COVETED-ENZO_W0QQitemZ190029182516QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6212Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Nate Crisman]

John, safe yourself 400 large.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INCOMPARABLY-STRIKING-THE-COVETED-ENZO_W0QQitemZ190029182516QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6212Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That one's yellow too, Surely the better buy. :twisted:

[90goldtsiawd]

Automatic too! :roll:

[BP95GSX]

John, safe yourself 400 large.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INCOMPARABLY-STRIKING-THE-COVETED-ENZO_W0QQitemZ190029182516QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6212Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Enzo's can be had. You want what you cant get, where noone else has it, right? I do. I've driven Wyclefs red Zonda S before which was an amazing thing. His McLaren F1 wasn't at the house at the time. Pushing hard from day to day will bring that type of reality closer and closer. BTW Nate, there were a few months where I earned more than my father. I know you put a smiley face after that comment but you should know I'm tight ass about that by now. Talking about your money problems over boards does amuse me though. :lol:

[90goldtsiawd]

Here we go again....

[CHRIS]

YOUR MOTHER

[iboostdoyou]

lets move this baby on over to the shit talk... I'd like to see another run at the old school slugfest

oh btw, did anyone notice the single lug nut setup on the Pagani's wheels? Weird.

[gtluke]

they are called knockoffs

[BP95GSX]

Luke, I think they're the new carbon fiber wheels. Let me guess, you hate those too. LOL. I'm really laughing out loud. hahaha.

[antlip]

i bought one of them things last week, wasnt fast enough so i sold it

[gtluke]

holy shit john you idiot
1 bolt wheels are called knockoffs. you KNOCK the one bolt off. historicly they were the 3 spoke "spinner" that you knock off. look at the old shelby racecars. one of the spokes of the spinners are saftey tied to one of the spokes of the wheels so it can't come undone. the spinner is there so you don't need any tools to get the wheel off. just a rubber mallet to "knock off" the wheel.

there is a history less for you
asshole

[gtluke]

here,
pictures for you
http://www.erareplicas.com/427/img/pd_hub.jpg

those are not lugs on the rotor. those are "pins" to keep the wheel from moving on the rotor so your brakes work.
you tighten down the spinner and it holds the wheel against the rotor/pins. no lug nuts.

eventually it was faster to use an impact gun at the race track, and more safe i'm sure so it moved from the spinner to a locking nut. like you see on modern race cars and that zonda.

i can't believe i have to explain what a knock off wheels are to a guy who "works on lambo's and ferarri's"

but then again, i remember craig having to explain to you what the difference is between a blow off valve and a wastegate.

fucking newbs

[BP95GSX]

So everytime you teach someone something new you call them idiot and asshole? I'm just curious. The lesson was appreciated though.

BTW, the only road Lambo or Ferrari I know that has one lug wheels, "knockoffs" is an ENZO, and the Porsche Carrera GT has them too. I did work on a Carrera GT before, (installed AWE muffler delete pipe), in case you were trying to say I dont work on exotics. Then again, I dont remeber the last time I cared what you thought. I've also been lucky enough to work on just about every other model from Lambo/Ferrari, other than F40, but who knows what can happen in the future. Have a nice night brother.

[gtluke]

if you wern't so condescending i wouldn't call you names or make you look so foolish.

[Nate Crisman]

Classic. This one is getting printed and framed for my office. :lol:

OMG customers are going to get a kick out of this one.

[BigT]

So everytime you teach someone something new you call them idiot and asshole? I'm just curious. The lesson was appreciated though.

BTW, the only road Lambo or Ferrari I know that has one lug wheels, "knockoffs" is an ENZO, and the Porsche Carrera GT has them too. I did work on a Carrera GT before, (installed AWE muffler delete pipe), in case you were trying to say I dont work on exotics. Then again, I dont remeber the last time I cared what you thought. I've also been lucky enough to work on just about every other model from Lambo/Ferrari, other than F40, but who knows what can happen in the future. Have a nice night brother.

Do half these cars drive to your shop?

[BP95GSX]

if you wern't so condescending i wouldn't call you names or make you look so foolish.

I'm glad you think you have that power over me.

[BP95GSX]

Classic. This one is getting printed and framed for my office. :lol:

OMG customers are going to get a kick out of this one.

So I guess it's cool to not make any money and advertise that fact so openly on public boards. More power to you if you're happy.

[BP95GSX]

So everytime you teach someone something new you call them idiot and asshole? I'm just curious. The lesson was appreciated though.

BTW, the only road Lambo or Ferrari I know that has one lug wheels, "knockoffs" is an ENZO, and the Porsche Carrera GT has them too. I did work on a Carrera GT before, (installed AWE muffler delete pipe), in case you were trying to say I dont work on exotics. Then again, I dont remeber the last time I cared what you thought. I've also been lucky enough to work on just about every other model from Lambo/Ferrari, other than F40, but who knows what can happen in the future. Have a nice night brother.

Do half these cars drive to your shop?

Half the guys I dont even have the pleasure of meeting. Cars get flatbedded in for the work.

[gtluke]

you mean, half the guys don't even know their cars are at your shop. they get flatbedded over from your uncle's body shop.

[Nate Crisman]

Classic. This one is getting printed and framed for my office. :lol:

OMG customers are going to get a kick out of this one.

So I guess it's cool to not make any money and advertise that fact so openly on public boards. More power to you if you're happy.

I am happy. Iv got a great family already and more children on the way. Great friends. AndI have time to spend with them. That is success, not having a fucking $100,000 car. Cars and money are fucking meaningless, you might find this out eventually.

I don't need money to feel good about myself, nor do I need to flaunt it to get respect. :roll: BTW that doesn't work either, atleast with most of the people I know.

As for my financial situation, well, I have nothing to be ashamed of. Why not talk about it openly? I got nothing to hide. You on the other hand! :roll: Dare we mention the blue evo?

Do I have to say Piss Off again? :D

[DrSmile]

And this started out so well... it must be the rain that makes everyone be on the rag this month :/

[90goldtsiawd]

HAHAHAHA I knew this would result AGAIN!

[CHRIS]

LUKE, John will always be on the defense after you post. You know this.

Nathan, keep poking this Blue Evo in John's face when last time you did that, he reminded you that the customer was VERY happy with the car. And why would you tell him he doesn't know what true success is? YOUR version of TRUE SUCCESS is different then HIS. It's a matter of opinion. John's got great family, i know them. The kid has great friends, hell im one of them. And in the last six months he's been outta the shop more then in the whole 3 years i've really known him, always spending time with family and friends, always telling me how important these people are to him and how it's worth it. Nate, you talk like you've seen socially in the last three years to say that he needs money to feel good about himself. I'll tell you that's not the case. He works hard, spends hard and saves hard. You just assume things here.
So go post some worthless NJDSM thread at your office so your five close friends can get an easy laugh at John, not like you have customers that come around anymore anyway.

[CHRIS]

One more thing Nate. You've turned the General section on this site to your personal diary to your friends. Just because you are very busy during the day doesnt mean you should post stories of your financial woes on a public forum. Clearly I can choose to NOT read those threads, and i usually make that choice. But have some class and self respect to leave that shit for the bar on Sunday night.

I moved outta my house this summer and im doing better then ever. Maybe that's because i manned up and did what needed to get done instead of posting on car forums, maybe.

[rsk_wannabe]

... and we thought the east coast west coast rapper rivalries were harsh...

Actually, I never really thought about that rivalry since it was after my time, but I did see a story once on E. ;)

Chris, I appreciate the manner is which you spoke up on behalf of John. No doubt that a few of Nate's friends may feel the need to chime in, but to what result? Can we not all see where this is headed? I know MikeL did since it was moved to SmackTalk in a nanosecond.

It is indeed tempting to engage and I for one have participated in the more political sided discussions. However, personal attacks among friends/colleagues/even competitors is hardly proper and on a pubic board never appropriate. Always remember "praise in public, counsel in private!" I submit that if someone has something critical they want to get off their chest, say it man-to-man or at least the 21st century version of man-to-man.... by PM/IM :)

I have known John and Nate for years and even though I do not know them as well as some of you, I can say that both are decent hardworking men and nowadays that is saying a lot.

I would say that the insulting words that are hurled are based out of youthful exhuberance, but both are well into their 20s and therefore should arguably not succumb to the "my dad is better than your dad" mentality. Each has his own private level of success and I suspect the other even shares the other person's views although perhaps not in the same priority.

WRT defining success, to each his own. But one should not claim financial security as the final arbiter. In my experience, financial success has so much more to do with being at the right place at the right time. Sure a person's individual motivation and drive have some play, but there are too many intelligent hardworking people who struggle to make ends meet to lead me to believe that brainpower and dedication are the only factors. Success IMHO is most likely the ability to balance your life to have enough to be satisfied. At least that is what I strive to do.

So if Nate and John are satisfied with their respective lives, then as I see it both are successful already. There is not need to prove one's success by pointing to what that person may feel is another person's failure. I have been through enough personal failures (in my own mind) to know that each event was merely an opptortunity to excell. It is the ability to overcome those personal failures that define the person.

On a final note, if you guys want to read about some SMACKTALK look at the recent news story below. Anyone want to take a guess at where this will lead?

Holy War (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14846353/)[/url]

...And if none of you are buying this, why not simply have an episode of PINKS between the rivals. LOL. j/k

[Utah Joe]

And this started out so well... it must be the rain that makes everyone be on the rag this month :/

now that you mention it, it is making my leg hurt badly.

[Utah Joe]

... ...And if none of you are buying this, why not simply have an episode of PINKS between the rivals. LOL. j/k

I highly doubt John would want that. :wink:

[Nate Crisman]

LUKE, John will always be on the defense after you post. You know this.

Nathan, keep poking this Blue Evo in John's face when last time you did that, he reminded you that the customer was VERY happy with the car. And why would you tell him he doesn't know what true success is? YOUR version of TRUE SUCCESS is different then HIS. It's a matter of opinion. John's got great family, i know them. The kid has great friends, hell im one of them. And in the last six months he's been outta the shop more then in the whole 3 years i've really known him, always spending time with family and friends, always telling me how important these people are to him and how it's worth it. Nate, you talk like you've seen socially in the last three years to say that he needs money to feel good about himself. I'll tell you that's not the case. He works hard, spends hard and saves hard. You just assume things here.
So go post some worthless NJDSM thread at your office so your five close friends can get an easy laugh at John, not like you have customers that come around anymore anyway.


Just becuase the buyer of that evo is happy doesn't change the fact that John lied through his teeth about the car, it's warranty, it's condition. He got called out by atleast 10 respeected long time NJDSM members. Then lied about "getting mitsubishi to reinstate the warranty becuase he did such a good job installing the new motor". :roll: John is a fucking Liar, most everyone on here knows it. HE will lie when he has to make a sale.

If JN doesn't revolve around money, why does EVERY post he makes have a namedrop of someone famous, or show of some big $ car he just drove. I don't think he's made a post in over a year that wasn't a "look at me, Im driving am exotic today".

The only dig he can make on me is that Im not in the best financial situation and I swear it on my sleeve. NJDSM is my freinds (most of them, except for the dickhead in question), I have nothing to hide here, so I talk about everything that comes up.

As for who will see the printed thread, well, I have LOTS of previous Broadway customers that come to me for thier dsm parts after being shafted by John. There's a reason I have a few things hanging in the office, a collection of "I got F'd in the A at broadway" stories peopel told me last time John and I got into it on here. Ill just put this one right next to it.

Somehow you think my business is dead already. I still have alot of customers coming through, and still selling alot. My choice was to downsize so I could eliminate employees. I want out of this, and downsizing was one step in the process. But whatever, I dont' have to justify anything to you guys.

[Greg97GSX]

Happy Friday everybody :lol:

[Nate Crisman]

Happy Friday everybody :lol:

Top of the morning to you. :P

[CHRIS]

Maybe im too young and naive, but most of what mr smurf said is a more ariculated and less emotional rendition of what i had said. Regardless, i'm always going to stand up for one of my friends when they are being badgered. I'm never too busy for that.

If his life revolved around money, we wouldn't be friends cuz i certainly dont have disposable income like he does. It's a matter of respect and work ethic that make he and I friends. Plenty of members enjoy exotics and wish they could be in John's shoes for a minute when he has any of those cars in his hands. You really expect him to post about DSMs when he doesn't drive his and his business has evolved to servicing high end cars?

John would never laugh at you for being on hard times. Don't even go there.

Also, are you so damn naive to think John or TTR never took an unsatisfied customer from you? They all circulate, it works out pretty evenly. And you bring that kind of shit up AGAIN. I can just laugh because i know John has gone miles for undeserving and ungrateful customers. I honestly think you know a lot about business. With that said, I cannot believe you think hearing a sob story from some DSM customer is a true idication of how John's customer service is.

Don't justify anything to me, but don't think John doesn't have friends to back him up on here either.

[Nate Crisman]

John would never laugh at you for being on hard times. Don't even go there.
.

Um go read his posts on this thread. :roll:


So I guess it's cool to not make any money and advertise that fact so openly on public boards. More power to you if you're happy.



Whatever...this is as pointless as it was last time, so Im going to save my bloodpressure for something more satisfying another day. Im not going to get all pissed off today while im watching Alex, and not have a good day with my son becuase Im fuming over what to say next.

So...have a nice day. :D

[MikeL]

you're all cockstains

[Nate Crisman]

you're all cockstains

Very Very true. :lol:

[CHRIS]

Um go read his posts on this thread. :roll:

He said "...and advertise it..." THAT was the point of his comment. Maybe if it was written in crayon for you it would make sense.
So many members are not well written on here. You guys have some pent up shit to look at everyone of his posts to start something. For being so satisfied with your life and having better things to do like watch your son, maybe you shouldn't engage this from the get go.

Mike, my dad always said he should have wasted me on the wall

[CollegeDropout]

luke, im just curious but why dont they incorporate the knock off lug design on normal cars? it seems like it would be a convienence to not have to go through all the trouble when you get a flat on the side of the road.

[Utah Joe]

Um go read his posts on this thread. :roll:

He said "...and advertise it..." THAT was the point of his comment. Maybe if it was written in crayon for you it would make sense.
So many members are not well written on here. You guys have some pent up shit to look at everyone of his posts to start something. For being so satisfied with your life and having better things to do like watch your son, maybe you shouldn't engage this from the get go.



Chris, while it doesn't bother some people, John does come on here for the express reason of telling everyone how rich he is. It is pretty arrogant. Personally I dont care, but call it what it is.

[Utah Joe]

luke, im just curious but why dont they incorporate the knock off lug design on normal cars? it seems like it would be a convienence to not have to go through all the trouble when you get a flat on the side of the road.

I am sure insurance companies would have something to say about wheels being attached with one bolt, dispite that fact that F1 cars might use this setup.

[DrSmile]

Maybe im too young and naive, but most of what mr smurf said is a more ariculated and less emotional rendition of what i had said.

I can't resist the spirit of this thread... If you meant articulated, how many degrees of movement does what he said have? Priceless error and perfectly placed! Wrong spelling, wrong word, and proving your statement in duplicate!

[NJGSX96]

I love when the board reverts back to everyone being 5 years old. Probably the reason I don't post too much anymore. I enjoy nothing more than watching people become little bitches at the drop of a hat. You're cooler than everyone else, you got more money than everyone else, you got more friends then everyone else. Good for you. We're all proud. I think everyone here needs to GROW UP, just a bit (sad coming from me, I know) and learn to LET SHIT GO! Life is too short.

I think I am going to start an "I drive an exotic" post so I can praise myself for being so cool.

[antlip]

hahahaha does any have a real job or do you sit at home and think of come backs for each other

[helite99]

so have you guys seen that 2004 Pagani Zonda Monza Race Car?

[twizzle]

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/dac0917/thumb_StopWhining.jpg

[1gnasty]

John, safe yourself 400 large.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INCOMPARABLY-STRIKING-THE-COVETED-ENZO_W0QQitemZ190029182516QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6212Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Enzo's can be had. You want what you cant get, where noone else has it, right? I do. I've driven Wyclefs red Zonda S before which was an amazing thing. His McLaren F1 wasn't at the house at the time. Pushing hard from day to day will bring that type of reality closer and closer. BTW Nate, there were a few months where I earned more than my father. I know you put a smiley face after that comment but you should know I'm tight ass about that by now. Talking about your money problems over boards does amuse me though. :lol:
yeah sure :roll: by the way i drove the enzo and that car suck ass :!: :!:

[rsk_wannabe]

hahahaha does any have a real job or do you sit at home and think of come backs for each other

I was off today.

[AWD 4TW]

Try this guys i swear itll help.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/555RS/crybaby.gif

[BP95GSX]

[quote="Nate@DSMotorsport":1wj2mgu7]
Um go read his posts on this thread. :roll:

He said "...and advertise it..." THAT was the point of his comment. Maybe if it was written in crayon for you it would make sense.
So many members are not well written on here. You guys have some pent up shit to look at everyone of his posts to start something. For being so satisfied with your life and having better things to do like watch your son, maybe you shouldn't engage this from the get go.



Chris, while it doesn't bother some people, John does come on here for the express reason of telling everyone how rich he is. It is pretty arrogant. Personally I dont care, but call it what it is.[/quote:1wj2mgu7]

Chris summed up everything for me. Thanks bud.

Nate, it is upsetting knowing these internet BS ramblings actually affect your blood pressure and life so much. They just affect the amount of time it takes me to read, and I laugh a lot too.

Utah, I never would never say anything about how much money I have or dont have to anyone but a close friend, let alone on a board. Posting a thread about an awesome car or saying I got to work on an exotic, etc, in no way is saying I'm rich. I dont even own them. I'm lucky enough to play with them and drive them. Some guys dont even want to see .1 extra miles on their cars when I work on them, some let me take them at will. If you know me in person, I am by far the least arrogant person you can meet. I actually love to give. I made the statement about earning because Nate busted my chops about my dad. Simple. I dont need to see that even though he had a smiley face there.

What I will brag about earning, is these "rich exotic car owners" trust. Someone posted these cars come to me on a flatbed "from my uncles body shop". I dont have uncles who own body shops, let alone an uncle who can pronounce Murcielago. I will brag that these people trust their quarter million $$ vehicles to me, most of the time barely knowing me personally, and only knowing about me through word of mouth. I earned these people on my own and it's worth more to me than the money I make. These older, established multi millionares are people I LOVE to learn lifes lessons from, as a supplement to my father who is my only real idol.

This you can print and hang on your wall Nate. Have a good weekend, I'm off to the City now!

[BigT]

and wish they could be in John's shoes for a minute when he has any of those cars in his hands.



i'm sure lots of us would love to drive an "exotic" but never wish to be in john's shoes. Chris, i met you a couple times, talked to you on the phone, and you seem to be a good kid, but i just have to ask this, do you love sack riding? I understand sticking up for friends, but sheesh.




John, will we see your 2g racecar again?

[BP95GSX]

Talha, what up. It's sitting at home covered in about an inch of dust. I just finished a huge project for a guy on my 3rd lift, so the GSX is coming soon to occupy that space and get messed around with. I want to try and make it as streetable as possible. I dont think I have driven a better combo in ANY car till this day, plenty of of more powerful cars, but nothing better. All I know is it will never sell, so it has to get done eventually. LOL. Thanks for asking.

Chris also said, "WHEN he has any of those cars in his hands", not all the time. LOL. I still owe you a fuel filter install on the Max, or a few bucks. :) Sorry for forgeting about that.

[CHRIS]

and wish they could be in John's shoes for a minute when he has any of those cars in his hands.



i'm sure lots of us would love to drive an "exotic" but never wish to be in john's shoes. Chris, i met you a couple times, talked to you on the phone, and you seem to be a good kid, but i just have to ask this, do you love sack riding? I understand sticking up for friends, but sheesh.
John, will we see your 2g racecar again?

how is it sack riding? i'm good for run-on sentences and all but i dont see where you're coming from

[CHRIS]

Maybe im too young and naive, but most of what mr smurf said is a more ariculated and less emotional rendition of what i had said.

I can't resist the spirit of this thread... If you meant articulated, how many degrees of movement does what he said have? Priceless error and perfectly placed! Wrong spelling, wrong word, and proving your statement in duplicate!

LOL
in duplicate, well put, except i meant articulate. i imagine you wouldn't need a definition, but for anyone else following:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=articulate